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Twice, twelve years apart, and not once.

Boys are 94 per cent of the children in the child justice system. The UN's guidance on that system has never once used the word.

This site wrote down a weakness in its own strongest finding: it rested on one document chain, and one chain proves little about an institution. So we went and counted a second. And a third.

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The weakness we wrote down

This piece exists because of a sentence in our own file.

Last year this site published a finding about the UN Global Study on Children Deprived of Liberty. The 804-page volume says boys often face discriminatory treatment in detention. The 23-page note sent to member states keeps the striking number and drops the finding, and its recommendations chapter uses the word girls once and the word boys not at all.

A note was drafted for a lawyer alongside that article, listing what the finding does not establish. One of the items was this: it is one document chain, and one chain is strong evidence about that study and weak evidence about institutional practice until the same comparison is run elsewhere.

That was the honest limit and it was written down against our own interest. This article is the attempt to close it, and the method is the same one: pick a document whose subject is fixed, count what is in it, publish whatever comes out.

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What a general comment is

Not a press release. The interpretation states are measured against.

The Convention on the Rights of the Child is the most widely ratified human rights treaty in the world. The Committee that oversees it issues general comments: its authoritative reading of what a provision requires in practice. They are what a government's lawyers consult, what a shadow report is written against, and what a domestic court cites when it looks for the meaning of a treaty obligation.

On the child justice system the Committee has issued two. General comment No. 10 (2007), on children's rights in juvenile justice. And General comment No. 24, adopted on 18 September 2019, on children's rights in the child justice system, which replaces it.

Both are sex-neutral by design and that is not a criticism. The word child appears 203 times in the first and 188 times in the second. Neither document is supposed to be about boys, and nothing here says it should be.

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The count

Whole words, case-insensitive, from the PDFs the UN itself serves.

The Committee's two general comments on child justice

  • GC 10 (2007) · Children's rights in juvenile justice · 13,129 words · girls 3 · boys 0
  • GC 24 (2019) · Children's rights in the child justice system · 10,914 words · girls 1 · boys 0
  • · · ·
  • Combined · 24,043 words · girls 4 · boys 0

Twelve years apart, written by different memberships, one replacing the other. In neither does the word appear.

For scale, here is the figure the UN transmitted to the General Assembly about the population those documents govern.

In the administration of justice and in the contexts of armed conflicts and national security, 94 per cent of all detained children are boys.

A/74/136, paragraph 35

That figure is scoped and this site states its scope every time it uses it. In migration detention the share is 67 per cent, and in institutions 56 per cent. The 94 per cent is the justice, conflict and security setting, which is exactly the setting these two general comments are about.

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The paragraph where it would have gone

Both documents have a passage on discrimination. Both name groups. Here they are in full.

This is GC24, paragraph 40. It is the general comment's treatment of discrimination in the child justice system.

Safeguards against discrimination are needed from the earliest contact with the criminal justice system and throughout the trial, and discrimination against any group of children requires active redress. In particular, gender-sensitive attention should be paid to girls and to children who are discriminated against on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. Accommodation should be made for children with disabilities.

General comment No. 24 (2019), paragraph 40

Every group named there belongs there. LGBTI children are overrepresented in child justice facilities and the Global Study says so. Children with disabilities face real barriers to a fair hearing. Girls in detention have documented distinct needs. Nothing in this article argues for removing a single word of it.

The observation is what sits beside those names and what does not. The paragraph is about discrimination against groups of children in the child justice system. The group that is 94 per cent of that system, and which the UN's own study of it says often faces discriminatory treatment because of stereotypes about how violent they are, is not one of the groups named.

And the 2007 text says why groups get named, in words the Committee chose itself.

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The principle, stated by the Committee

This is the sentence that makes the finding a finding rather than a complaint.

Since girls in the juvenile justice system may be easily overlooked because they represent only a small group, special attention must be paid to the particular needs of the girl child.

General comment No. 10 (2007), on the girl child in juvenile justice

Read that as the Committee's reasoning rather than as a target. It is a rule about how attention works inside an institution: a small group gets overlooked, so somebody has to be told to look at it. That is correct, it is well made, and this campaign would apply it to any group it fits.

It is also a rule about visibility rather than about numbers of victims, which is worth noticing, because the usual reply to everything on this site is that men are the majority and majorities do not need protecting.

The Committee's own principle does not say that. It says attention has to be directed, or it goes where habit sends it. Twelve years and two documents later, the group nobody was told to look at is the one the UN's own study found facing discriminatory treatment.

Being 94 per cent of a system is not the same as being seen in it.

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Three chains, not one

The limitation this article set out to close.

The original finding was one document chain. It is now three, from two different UN bodies, spanning 2007 to 2019.

The same signature, three times

  • A/74/136 (2019), recommendations chapter, Secretary-General's note · girls 1 · boys 0
  • GC 10 (2007), Committee on the Rights of the Child · girls 3 · boys 0
  • GC 24 (2019), Committee on the Rights of the Child · girls 1 · boys 0

That is not proof of a policy and this article does not claim one. Nobody has been shown to have decided anything, and the campaign's standing rule is to describe actions and not motives. It applies here as everywhere.

What three chains do is remove the easiest reply to the first one. A single document can be an editing accident. The same shape in three documents, from two bodies, twelve years apart, is a pattern in what gets written down, and a pattern is a thing an institution can be asked about.

There is one more thing GC24 settles, and it settles it against the possibility of us being wrong. Our article on the Global Study rests on a test we published: that the finding stands unless some UN document after July 2019 carries the 94 per cent into a recommendation, a target or an indicator. GC24 was adopted on 18 September 2019. It is the authoritative guidance on precisely that system. It carries neither the figure nor the word.

We went looking for the document that would prove us wrong, and found the one that did not.

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The sentence already exists

We ran the same count on a different treaty body, expecting the same shape. We did not get it, and this is the most useful thing in the article.

The Human Rights Committee is a different UN treaty body. It oversees the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and its general comments cover the right to life, the right to a fair trial, and liberty and security of person. That last one is the article that governs detention for everybody, adults included.

Its general comment on that article, number 35, was adopted in 2014. Paragraph 3 sets out who the article protects.

Article 9 guarantees those rights to everyone. “Everyone” includes, among others, girls and boys, soldiers, persons with disabilities, lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons, aliens, refugees and asylum seekers, stateless persons, migrant workers.

General comment No. 35 (2014) on article 9, paragraph 3

Girls and boys. Both, named together, in a list of who a detention right protects. Written in 2014, five years before the general comment on the child justice system was adopted without the word.

It is not an isolated line either. The Committee's guidance on fair trial refers to the equal right of men and women. Its guidance on the right to life has the most lopsided raw counts of anything we examined, women 14 against men 2, and almost all of that is the paragraph on abortion, which is inherently about pregnancy. Even inside that paragraph the Committee writes that states should ensure access for women and men, and especially girls and boys to sexual and reproductive health information.

The symmetric formulation survives in the least symmetric subject that body writes about.

Human Rights Committee general comments, whole-word counts

  • GC 32 (2007) · fair trial · 9,837 words · women 2 · men 1 · girls 0 · boys 0
  • GC 35 (2014) · liberty and security of person · 10,381 words · women 1 · men 0 · girls 1 · boys 1
  • GC 36 (2018) · right to life · 13,383 words · women 14 · men 2 · girls 10 · boys 1
  • GC 37 (2020) · peaceful assembly · 10,860 words · women 2 · men 0 · girls 0 · boys 0

So the honest conclusion is narrower than the one this article was heading towards, and better.

There is no UN-wide habit of leaving boys out. One treaty body names them as a matter of routine and has done for over a decade. What the count shows is a difference between two committees writing about the same children, and the one that omitted the word was the one writing specifically about the system those children are 94 per cent of.

Nobody has to invent a phrasing. The sentence is already written, already adopted, and already in force.

The Committee on the Rights of the Child wrote the world's guidance on children in the justice system in 2007, and wrote it again in 2019. Between the two documents there are 24,043 words, four mentions of girls, and no mentions of boys.

A different UN committee, writing in 2014 about the article that governs detention, listed who it protects and began the list with girls and boys.

One of them found the word. The other was writing about the system those children are 94 per cent of.

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Questions this article answers

What is a general comment?

The authoritative interpretation issued by a UN treaty body of what a provision of its treaty requires in practice. For the Convention on the Rights of the Child these are what governments, shadow reporters and domestic courts consult for the meaning of an obligation.

How many times does the word boys appear in UN guidance on child justice?

Zero, in both documents. General comment No. 10 (2007) is 13,129 words and general comment No. 24 (2019) is 10,914. The word girls appears three times in the first and once in the second.

What share of children in detention are boys?

94 per cent in the administration of justice, armed conflict and national security, on the UN's own figure at A/74/136 paragraph 35. In migration detention the share is 67 per cent and in institutions 56 per cent.

Does this show the UN Committee did something wrong?

It shows what the documents contain. This site describes actions and not motives, and no decision by anybody has been demonstrated. Three documents from two UN bodies carry the same pattern, which is a thing an institution can be asked about.

What is being asked for?

That when the guidance is next revised, the discrimination paragraph names the group that is 94 per cent of the system it governs. That is a fourth name added to a list of three and takes nothing from the groups already named.

Where this goes, and what would settle it

The test is a search box. Open either general comment, both linked in full above and both served by the UN itself, and search for the word. If it is there and we have miscounted, this article is wrong in its central claim and the correction goes in the log with the date and at the top of the page.

The wider census is published too, so nobody has to take the selection on trust. Nine general comments were counted, not two, and the totals across them are girls 67 and boys 33. One of the nine, on children in street situations, names neither sex at all, and that is recorded as genuinely neutral rather than counted as evidence for anything.

The ask that follows is a sentence in a paragraph that already exists. When the Committee next revises its guidance on the child justice system, let the discrimination paragraph name the group that is 94 per cent of it. That takes nothing from girls, from LGBTI children or from children with disabilities, all of whom keep every word they have. It is a fourth name in a list of three.

The four documents this rests on

All four are public and are linked here directly rather than described. Read them yourself. That is the point of putting them at the top of their own section instead of at the bottom of a reference list.

CRC/C/GC/24 General comment No. 24 (2019) on children's rights in the child justice system Replaces general comment No. 10 (2007). 10,914 words. Paragraph 40 is the discrimination paragraph quoted above. 18 September 2019 Fetched, read and counted 19 August 2026 Open it on documents.un.org → CRC/C/GC/10 General comment No. 10 (2007) on children's rights in juvenile justice The document GC24 replaced. 13,129 words. Contains the Committee's stated reasoning on why small groups need directed attention. 2007 Fetched, read and counted 19 August 2026 Open it on documents.un.org → A/74/136 Global study on children deprived of liberty: note by the Secretary-General Paragraph 35 carries the 94 per cent. Its recommendations chapter names girls once and boys not at all. 11 July 2019 Read in full 16 August 2026 Open it on documents.un.org → CCPR/C/GC/35 General comment No. 35 (2014) on article 9, liberty and security of person Human Rights Committee. Paragraph 3 names girls and boys together in its list of who article 9 protects. 10,381 words. 2014 Fetched, read and counted 19 August 2026 Open it on documents.un.org →

By Mikal Monslaup with Claude (Anthropic)

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for UN for Men Too, a campaign by Manderådet and MannsForum. This article is the author's own work and is not a statement by either organisation.

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Source notes and accuracy flags

This section is part of the article, not an appendix to it. It records where each figure came from, what was checked, and every place where the honest version of a claim is weaker than the version that would have read better.

Source notes
  • Counts are of whole words, case-insensitively, taken from the PDFs served by documents.un.org, so boys is not counted inside other words and girls is not counted inside girlhood. Both documents extracted cleanly: child returns 203 and 188 respectively, which is the check that the text came out of the PDF properly rather than the count being an artefact of a failed extraction.
  • GC24 carries a note that it was reissued for technical reasons on 11 November 2019. The adoption date on its face is 18 September 2019 and that is the date used here.
  • The 94 per cent covers the administration of justice, armed conflict and national security. It is not a figure for all detention: migration detention is 67 per cent and institutions 56 per cent, both from the same paragraph. This site states the scope every time the figure is used.
  • Nine general comments were counted in total. The two on child justice are the subject here because their subject matter is fixed and comparable; the other seven are published in the research file with their counts so the selection can be checked rather than trusted.
/* The softened claims used to be printed in full at the foot of every article: each thing I wanted to write, what went out instead, and why. It is the right record to keep and the wrong place to keep it. Repeated inside each piece it read as the article arguing with itself, and it put the strongest unsupportable phrasings back in front of a reader who had just finished the supportable version. The claims stay in the data and go out with the register, which is where a reader who wants the working goes looking. */

Every figure in this article also appears in the register, with its exact value and primary source, and any correction to it will appear in the corrections log with the date it was made.